From tuhs at tuhs.org  Wed Jul  1 01:59:11 2026
From: tuhs at tuhs.org (Clem Cole via TUHS)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 11:59:11 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] UNIX V4 clip by CBS
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below

On Mon, Jun 29, 2026 at 5:12 PM Thalia Archibald via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org>
wrote:

> The CBS story for our recovery of UNIX V4 has now been published!
> It's a fun, short clip with footage not shown in the February video put
> out by CHM.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HatXp2dqxb4

nice.

>
>
> As an aside, the black monitor in the historical clips (0:12, 0:44) looks
> like a
> Teletype Model 40.
>
I think you are right.  I don't think I ever saw one with the video display
option.  But I did encounter a couple of track-mounted versions with a
kyb/printer (ASR-33 function replacement) in a computer room.

From tuhs at tuhs.org  Wed Jul  1 02:09:43 2026
From: tuhs at tuhs.org (al kossow via TUHS)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 09:09:43 -0700
Subject: [TUHS] UNIX V4 clip by CBS
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>> The CBS story for our recovery of UNIX V4 has now been published!
>> It's a fun, short clip with footage not shown in the February video put
>> out by CHM.
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HatXp2dqxb4
>

the reason it never ran

https://cosocial.ca/@robpike/116836488725606098




From tuhs at tuhs.org  Wed Jul  1 05:59:48 2026
From: tuhs at tuhs.org (Thalia Archibald via TUHS)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 19:59:48 +0000
Subject: [TUHS] Several Missing UNIX Documents Procured
In-Reply-To: <ZelBnaNy4M5C77Br6bGdCvvi0UK3ezt8vH1timTo6Ra_p7r71cmRY8zoPc_02fTAvjuwARjmb_tMPyQq1M4eNfDnOfJnNpGZ1jAjSl1l0xA=@protonmail.com>
References: <ZelBnaNy4M5C77Br6bGdCvvi0UK3ezt8vH1timTo6Ra_p7r71cmRY8zoPc_02fTAvjuwARjmb_tMPyQq1M4eNfDnOfJnNpGZ1jAjSl1l0xA=@protonmail.com>
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On Jun 29, 2026, at 19:35, segaloco wrote:
> Hello one and all!  I wanted to share news of a recent document haul that contains many interesting bits.  The highlights are:

> WwB 2.0 Source Code (circa 1982, I think it's all there)

> More to come!
> 
> - Matt G.

Great work as usual! I’m especially excited by the WWB source.

Thalia

From tuhs at tuhs.org  Wed Jul  1 06:04:36 2026
From: tuhs at tuhs.org (Rob Pike via TUHS)
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2026 06:04:36 +1000
Subject: [TUHS] Anachronistic verisimilitude at cat-v.org
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I don't own that page, but clearly those who do did not understand col(1).
I'll forward this to tuhs to see if anyone there knows who can fix it.

-rob


On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 10:58 PM Douglas McIlroy <
douglas.mcilroy at dartmouth.edu> wrote:

> The display on page 2 of
>  https://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v/unix_prog_design.pdf
> is explainable, but may be mystifying to readers who
> know backspace only as an editing convenience, not a
> printing action.
>
> Doug
>

From tuhs at tuhs.org  Wed Jul  1 07:39:13 2026
From: tuhs at tuhs.org (sl via TUHS)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2026 17:39:13 -0400
Subject: [TUHS] Anachronistic verisimilitude at cat-v.org
Message-ID: <EA0F1E2B2211C5E85E0C0710E33F0185@gaff.inri.net>

> On Tue, Jun 30, 2026 at 10:58 PM Douglas McIlroy <
> douglas.mcilroy at dartmouth.edu> wrote:
> 
>> The display on page 2 of
>>  https://harmful.cat-v.org/cat-v/unix_prog_design.pdf
>> is explainable, but may be mystifying to readers who
>> know backspace only as an editing convenience, not a
>> printing action.
>>
>> Doug
> 
> I don't own that page, but clearly those who do did not understand col(1).
> I'll forward this to tuhs to see if anyone there knows who can fix it.
> 
> -rob

i inherited cat-v.org from uriel when he passed away in 2012.  i have
postscript but no troff source for the original paper.  over the years
i've discovered multiple problems with the document.

back in 2013 i wrote to bwk:

	Page 4 of the pdf version, the paragraph that begins with "The answer
	is 'No.'" contains lines such as:
	
		cat's job is to the data in files
	
	and:
	
		Programs that collect data shouldn't the data
	
	Amusing, but presumably not intentional. There are other examples
	of apparently missing words throughout the file.
	
bwk confirmed that nobody seemed to have the source, and copied rob on
the reply.  since the source was presumed lost, i examined the version
published in the BLTJ, and reported:

	The printed version from BLTJ had also lost some characters during
	its journey from source to print. Specifically, the backquotes from
	the example on page 3:
	
		cat `cat filelist`
	
	The italics missing from my copy were intact in this version.
	
	Today, a friend located a postscript version that seems to have
	retained all of the missing pieces: 
	
	http://netlib.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/doc/84/kp.ps.gz

this version addressed the problems i'd originally noticed but now
exhibits the problems doug noted above.

everyone stopped responding to me at this point, and in the subsequent
years i have failed to recreate the entire document by re-typing it.

sl

From tuhs at tuhs.org  Wed Jul  1 16:11:52 2026
From: tuhs at tuhs.org (segaloco via TUHS)
Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2026 06:11:52 +0000
Subject: [TUHS] Several Missing UNIX Documents Procured
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On Monday, June 29th, 2026 at 18:35, segaloco via TUHS <tuhs at tuhs.org> wrote:

> Hello one and all!  I wanted to share news of a recent document haul that contains many interesting bits.
>
> ...
> 
> There are other odds and ends, and the seller found another binder already and may continue to do so, I've arranged to check in again on Friday.  Among the random bits here too are two issues of the WECo UNIX Systems Newsletter that, among other things, detail "UNIX Release 6.0".  From the February 1983 newsletter:
> 
> > UNIX System Release 6.0 planning and development is continuing on schedule.  The target ready-to-order
> > date is December 15, 1983.  The most probable features include:
> >
> > - Demand Paging
> > - Job Control
> > - shell Enhancements
> > - Curser(sic)/Terminfo Package
> > - Selected BSD commands (ls,mail,pg)
> > - cron/at Package
> > - Arbitrary length variable names in C (flexnames)
> 
> The earliest SVR2 manuals, those distributed internally to BTL facilities, are dated December, 1983, so presumably USG delivered on their ready-to-order timeline.
> 

These two newsletter issues are now uploaded here:

https://archive.org/details/unix-systems-newsletter-vol-5-no-3
https://archive.org/details/unix-systems-newsletter-vol-6-no-1

These are right as System V is making it out and Release 6.0 (SVR2) is being developed.  They give a little peek into what folks inside AT&T were seeing on the eve of System V and divestiture.

- Matt G.

From tuhs at tuhs.org  Fri Jul  3 22:41:06 2026
From: tuhs at tuhs.org (Folkert van Heusden via TUHS)
Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2026 14:41:06 +0200
Subject: [TUHS] fork
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> p.s. it is on http://pdp.komputilo.nl:8080/ (behind a NAT router) and 
> it takes quite a while to serve pages :-)

After fixing an important bug (stack yellow zone did not trigger an MMR1 
update) it is a lot more stable! Kernel compiles go all the way to the 
finish, finally :-)

If I remember correctly, I also mentioned not being able to talk to the 
NTPd included in BSD: that is also solved after I switched to NTP v1.


Regards

-- 
www.vanheusden.com

